11 Days of Marvel: Thor: The Dark World

Day 8 of 11 Days of Marvel is here! In this project, Bill and Erin go through every sin­gle extant film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and write their reac­tions to them! The project start­ed here, with Iron Man, or you can click here to see all the arti­cles in the project so far. Today is about:


Thor: The Dark World (2013)

Bill’s Response: Malekith, the Accursedly Uninteresting

The team behind Thor: The Dark World should be com­mend­ed for man­ag­ing to make a movie about ancient evil, fra­ter­nal betray­al, lost love and mys­te­ri­ous por­tals into a dull and dread­ful slog.

Nothing about this movie works. Hemsworth and Portman have lost what chem­istry they had in Thor. The green­screened land­scape of Svartalfheim is drab and brown. I imag­ine they were going for a des­o­late look, lit­tered as it is with the ruins of ancient Dark Elf space­ships, but it just looks like a place­hold­er for a more inter­est­ing land­scape. Jane Foster is only in this movie to serve as a ves­sel for the Aether, some mys­te­ri­ous­ly bor­ing Ancient Power that was Buried Forever that she Discovers Randomly because of the Convergence (which is some­times called the Alignment), which Blurs the Boundaries between Worlds and so on and so forth and I don’t care, I don’t care, please stop it, I don’t care. Jane makes pre­cise­ly two deci­sions in this movie: she decides to inves­ti­gate the weird read­ings Darcy found in London, and she helps tele­port some dark elves around in the final show­down. Otherwise, she exists pure­ly for Thor to brood over her. Oh, and she slaps peo­ple, uni­ver­sal ter­ri­ble writer short­hand for a woman being “spunky” which is inevitably fol­lowed by the vil­lain say­ing “I like her.”


Loki is back, but this new team has no idea how to write him. His dia­logue is nei­ther as grandiose (“I am bur­dened with glo­ri­ous pur­pose”) nor as witty (“Are you ever not going to fall for that?”) as it could be in Thor or The Avengers. Instead, they write him like a bored, rebel­lious teenag­er. (“It’s not that I don’t love our lit­tle talks, it’s just that I don’t love them.”) He lit­er­al­ly says “ta-da” at one point. He’s not the brood­ing, con­flict­ed younger broth­er of Thor, nor the mono­ma­ni­a­cal Trickster of The Avengers. He adds noth­ing to this movie. He’s just here because Tumblr is in love with him.

But worse than Loki, worse than Foster, worse than the not-at-all funny comic sec­tions mak­ing fun of Erik Selvig’s life-shattering trau­ma, worse than all of these, is the film’s vil­lain, Malekith the Accursed. Christopher Eccleston, who was the 9th Doctor once upon a time, can be a very charis­mat­ic actor. Here, he is given about twelve lines and deliv­ers them all (half of which are in an utter­ly uncon­vinc­ing Elvish) in a vague, monot­o­ne mum­ble. His plan? To do some magic that destroys All of the Universe, because his peo­ple came from a time Before the Universe, and he wants to restore the Not-Universe.

Blowing up the uni­verse is the most bor­ing villain-plan in the world, you guys. It par­tic­u­lar­ly does­n’t work when your vil­lain is flat and unmen­ac­ing. I sus­pect they were try­ing to cre­ate a vil­lain who cared noth­ing at all for the petty squab­bles of Asgard and was hell­bent on its anni­hi­la­tion, who viewed the Asgardians as lit­tle more than ants beneath his feet. That might poten­tial­ly have worked. But we spend so lit­tle time with Malekith that what was prob­a­bly intend­ed to be quiet deter­mi­na­tion reads as apa­thy. Malekith is the Designated Villain of the Week, there to be a cat­a­lyst for other, more inter­est­ing things to hap­pen. And that might work if the other things that hap­pened were at all inter­est­ing. Loki serves a sim­i­lar pur­pose in The Avengers, though he’s about a thou­sand times more charis­mat­ic. But every­thing else in this movie is also flat and drab, which draws even more atten­tion to the fact that Malekith is a card­board cutout of Christopher Eccleston, pac­ing awk­ward­ly around the set while he waits for his check to clear.


This is a bad movie, but it’s not even bad in an inter­est­ing or hammy way. It’s com­plete­ly rote, made just because they felt like there ought to be anoth­er Thor movie.

Although I guess the Dark Elf space­ships are pret­ty cool.


Favorite Moment: The scene between Frigga and Malekith, one of the only vague­ly inter­est­ing action scenes in the movie and one of three brief moments of char­ac­ter­i­za­tion for Malekith1. She says she’ll never tell him where the Aether is, he looks at her for a moment, and says “I believe you,” before order­ing her imme­di­ate death. This could have been a men­ac­ing vil­lain: cold­ly prac­ti­cal, unin­ter­est­ed in the­atrics, and not going to waste time mono­logu­ing. But that would have required bet­ter writ­ing every­where else, a more con­vinc­ing per­for­mance, and some more time spent with this guy instead of watch­ing Loki mug for the cam­era.

Least Favorite Moment: Ah, but there are so many. Probably the line “Have you come to see the end of your uni­verse?” Which, just, good grief, guys.

Scene Which I Used to Like, But then The X‑Men Did It Better: I had remem­bered enjoy­ing parts of the last fight in a “now you’re think­ing with por­tals” kind of way, and I guess it’s still fine. The fact that Mjolnir is con­stant­ly try­ing to find Thor as he and Malekith get kicked through to var­i­ous worlds by the Convergence is kind of neat. But in our post-Days of Future Past world, it takes some bet­ter Portal-style trick­ery to make me happy. Seriously, though, how cool was Blink in X‑Men? She was so cool.

Bill’s Rankings:

1Captain America: The First Avenger

2The Avengers

3Iron Man

4. Iron Man 3


6The Incredible Hulk

7Iron Man 2

8Thor: The Dark World


Erin’s Response: 

To echo my esteemed col­league, I can­not believe that peo­ple pick on Iron Man 3 when this movie exists. Not only does it fail to live up to the smash­ing fun that was the first Thor, it fails to make any sense at all. The strange love-triangle/bromance between Thor, Loki, and Jane falls flat­ter than bread at alti­tude with­out the extra flour (this is very impor­tant – trust me).

Thor, we are lead to believe, has been watch­ing Jane on Earth for two years with­out going to see her. Let me say that again: two years. During this time, he has failed to come and visit her even once. Now, as we all know, the Bifrost grows at a rate of 20 feet every month, and since when Thor broke the bridge he also broke the round globe thing, we’ll add 3 months for con­struc­tion, which equals about a year and GO SEE YOUR GIRLFRIEND ALREADY. If this movie was about Jane, she would have found anoth­er guy in this time and Thor would have been the one that is “just not that into her.”

As you know if you read my last post on the sub­ject, I don’t real­ly buy the romance between Jane and Thor, par­tial­ly because it was never fleshed out, and par­tial­ly because they don’t seem to show much actu­al warmth or phys­i­cal affec­tion towards one anoth­er. So, rather than this mess, I can think of two very sim­i­lar scripts that would have had much more inter­est­ing ram­i­fi­ca­tions:

1. Jane and Thor real­ize that they were thrown togeth­er by chance last time, and in this movie, they start to real­ly con­sid­er what it would be like for him to so dras­ti­cal­ly out­live her. There is a rea­son the Aragorn/Arwen story is so good, and part of the rea­son that you root for them is that they both know they shouldn’t be togeth­er and yet can’t fight it. For those Marvel Movies Writers out there, this is call roman­tic ten­sion. Please con­sid­er adding it to your movies.


2. Jane and Thor real­ize that they were thrown togeth­er by chance last time, and per­haps they don’t actu­al­ly like each other as much as they thought they did. Not that their third movie could­n’t resolve this into a more tra­di­tion­al romance, but how fun would it have been for Jane to enjoy Loki’s com­pa­ny more than Thor’s? How fun would it have been for Thor’s he-manning to get on Jane’s nerves? Jane, left on earth for TWO YEARS, could have been mad at him, and dis­trust­ful of giv­ing him her heart lest he leave her again. They wouldn’t have even need­ed to re-film the end of the movie for this.

If you are won­der­ing why this whole post is one long rant about romance, that is because their crap­py romance is the only halfway inter­est­ing sto­ry­line in this movie. BOOM.

Favorite Moment: Portman’s date with Chris O’Dowd. Their chem­istry was miles bet­ter than Portman’s and Hemsworth’s.

Least Favorite Moment: Every moment the vil­lain is on screen. I can’t remem­ber his name or what he wants, which, you know, is prob­a­bly a bad sign.

Least Interesting Stripshow: Why is Selvig always naked? Why is he in these movies at all? Why isn’t Portman a bad ass sci­en­tist? I am going to repeat this point until we actu­al­ly get a bad ass female sci­en­tist in these movies.

Erin’s Rankings: 

1Captain America: The First Avenger

2. Iron Man

3The Avengers

4. Iron Man 3


6The Incredible Hulk

7Iron Man 2

8Thor: The Dark World


And Now, A Conversation

Erin: This is a pret­ty crum­my movie, huh?

Bill: Yup.

Erin: Easily the worst in the fran­chise so far, right?

Bill: Yup.

Erin: Not even Idris Elba can save this movie.

Bill: Nope.

Erin: I don’t have any­thing else to say about this movie.

Bill: Me nei­ther.

This Has Been A Conversation

Thank You For Reading


Well, thank good­ness, that’s it for Thor: The Dark World! Come back tomor­row for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, a movie we both real­ly enjoyed the first time we saw it!


  1. The other two being when he pet­ti­ly blows up the throne and when he puts his head next to Algrim in a show of broth­er­ly sol­i­dar­i­ty. []

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